Former President Barack Obama has partnered with musical icon Bruce Springsteen in a new podcast called Renegades: Born in the USA. The unlikely duo describes their new eight-part project on Spotify as an ongoing conversation about “their lives, music, and enduring love of America — despite all its challenges.” During the second episode, which launched this week along with the first, Obama recalled an incident he had in the seventh grade with a friend who called him a racial slur; in response, Obama proceeded to break his nose.