Claudia Conway has been through a lot for a 16-year-old and the only one who really understood that on Sunday night’s premiere of American Idol was Katy Perry. She zoned in right away when the familiar face popped into the room with a nervous greeting.

“Are you OK,?” responded Perry in reference to Claudia’s videos on TikTok, which often give a glimpse of the turmoil going on in her household with parents and political figures, Kellyanne and George Conway. “No, but yes, ” responded Claudia while judges Lionel Richie and Luke Bryan looked on in confusion.