Ahead of the Friday release of his new project Tana Talk 4, Benny the Butcher sat down with Apple Music 1 host Ebro Darden to discuss a variety of topics, including the state of Griselda Records.

In a clip from Ebro’s upcoming interview with Benny, which premieres Thursday at 3 p.m. ET on Apple Music 1, the Buffalo rapper opened up about Conway the Machine’s recent departure from Griselda, clarifying that Conway’s brother, Westside Gunn, is the sole owner of the label.