Jalen Rose was 12 years old when he saw how the other half lived, riding in a van with his childhood hoops squad, the Superfriends, to Detroit Country Day for practice.

“I look off to my left, and there’s a lake called Cass Lake, and I’m like, hold on, they boatin’ and jet skiin’ in Detroit?” Rose tells Dime. “Like that’s happenin’? Like, whoa! I didn’t know that was goin’ on,” Rose recalls while speaking with Dime over the phone last week. “I’m like 12 — and by the way, I’m from the Great Lakes state. But I had never really been exposed to that. I ain’t see that. I ain’t know that was happenin’. I’m like, wait a minute it’s three in the afternoon and they’re [on the lake]? I’m like yo, I need that.”