On Monday afternoon, Jason Kelce held a press conference in Philadelphia to announce he was officially retiring from the NFL. The longtime Eagles center and near-Hall of Fame lock gave an emotional speech, breaking down in tears before he even got going, as the weight of calling it a career hit him in full.

In that speech, he shouted out teammates and coaches, but it was when he talked about his family that he again got tripped up by the emotion of the moment. That feeling was reciprocated by his brother Travis when the two recorded their latest episode of the New Heights show, back home in Cleveland after they were honored with a bobblehead at the Cavs game against Boston on Tuesday night. As Travis explained, the two never discussed Jason’s retirement decision much because Travis wanted to avoid selfishly pushing his brother to return for another year, tearfully explaining to his brother just what Jason’s career meant to him.